Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Accommodation in Paris

Hi All - I hope you can help. I plan on visiting Paris mid July for 4 days. Not having been to Paris before I really am unsure where the best area would be for me to be based out of. I had thought about the Tuileries or on one of the little islands but as I say not sure.... would be most grateful if you could help or recommend not only an area but also maybe a hotel? Pricewise I guess I am looking at the moderate level....





Thanks in advance for your help.






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Hello, post this on the Paris forum,





Book something central, nicest for first visit.



The last two digits on the zip or postal code indicate which arrondissont a hotel is in (ie%26quot; 75007) , 07 = seventh arr. .



The most popular for 1 st timers are 1st, 4th, 5th , 6 th and some like 7th.



Get a map ,, stay near river,, anywhere between ET and Notre Dame. I prefer left bank,, not too far south.





Go on this site, click on %26quot;paris hotels%26quot; on left hand side of page, read hotel reviews.,, as you scroll down you will find all different budgets.



There are many decent places under 150 euros a night.



Helps if you are honest with your budget, your moderate may be someone else cheap, or someone elses idea of splurging.



I have spent 60 euros a night, and I have spent 200 euros a night. Both places were nice, both clean, central etc.




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Re accommodation - moderate??? I have based this on the info suggested in the guides I have read which suggest that this is approx 80-130 euros per night...




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Driving to Nice

We are planning to drive to Nice on Fri 13 July from Burgundy and stay there for a couple of days. Is that a really stupid idea since everyone will be on holiday that weekend?




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it%26#39;s true the 14th of July is an holiday day in France, and it%26#39;s the summer.... so a lot of traffic and people





but the city will be the same, the sea the same...





so you can go because even if it%26#39;s a holiday day or not, you will find a lot of tourists and Nice is lovely




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Back from 13 days in Paris

Got back Thursday from 13 wonderful days in Paris (my wife%26#39;s and my first trip there)...





Arrived at CDG before noon on Friday June 8th and took a taxi to our first hotel (Hotel Louvre Rivoli in 1st e [review of hotel later] before 1 pm. Our room was ready; we dropped off our bags and started wondering along the Rue de Rivoli.





An hour into our wondering and saw 100%26#39;s of nude and semi-nude bicycle riders having a great time on the road. Police were directing traffic. Not sure what that was all about but I sure haven%26#39;t seen anything like that in Toronto!





Anyway, thanks to tips received from reading threads in this forum, we picked up our Carte Orange at a Metro station to start on the following Monday. As well, we worked our way to the Paris tourist office near the Rue Pyramides to buy our 4-day Museum passes.





Sunday and Monday were spent at the Louvre, Picasso Museum, the Jewish Memorial and we did the Marais walk (Frommer%26#39;s Memorable Walks) as well. On the same street that the 100%26#39;s of cyclists were travelling on Saturday were at least 1000 roller bladers on Sunday, blading for some benefit or other. Quite a sight.





Tuesday we took the RER C to Versailles. We took the Bd. du Palais bridge to the RER station at St. Michel. (TIP: if you need tickets for the RER, take the entrance on the east side of the bridge to find a booth that is manned; the west side entrance is only for those with train tickets already). Spent the day doing Versailles, including the palace, the grounds, and Marie Antoinette%26#39;s %26#39;little%26#39; abode away from the palace. It takes a good day to see everything there.





Wednesday, back in Paris for the D%26#39;Orsey Museum, Jardin des Tuileries, Obelisque, Conciergerie, St. Chapelle and the Palais de Justice. We definitely got our money%26#39;s worth from the Museum passes. Also, whenever available, we rented audio guides at the various museums.





Thursday, as I remember, included Notre Dame, Gallerie Lafayette %26amp; le Printemps for my wife to do damage to her credit card. That evening, we took in the 11pm show of the Moulin Rouge. We booked online here a month in advance and still could not get a 9 pm show for any of the nights we wanted. Others have made negative comments about the show but we thought it was fantastic. It started late (11:30 pm before all were seated) and ended at 1:30 am. As hundreds of us left after the show, we were met by a torrential downpour outside. Luckily, my wife and I ran across the street where I was fortunate to hail an available cab within minutes by running out into the traffic to get his attention. (The Metro stops at 12:30 am so we couldn%26#39;t use it).





Friday included a visit to Sacre Coeur and more miles of walking.





Saturday, we had to move hotels and went to the Aviatic St. Germaine in the 6th e. After checking in, we did the St. Sulpice Walk which included the oldest street and oldest tree (planted in 1602) in Paris.





I should add here that most of the 13 days in Paris were overcast much of each day and showers some of the day. A great tip is NEVER go anywhere without your umbrella, even if you wake up to a blue sky in the morning.





And indeed we did get a blue sky morning on Sunday when we visited the Eiffel tower. Arriving at 8:45 am, we got on the elevator by about 9:15 am. Not too bad. We%26#39;re in our 60%26#39;s and not much for walking all the way to the top so paid the extra to take the elevator all the way up. If you do one thing in Paris, go to the top of the tower. We also visited the Arc de Triomphe, did the touristy thing off having a coffee at Fouget%26#39;s on the Champs Elysees %26amp; the Latin Quarter walk.





Monday included the Luxenbourg Gardens, the Lalique exhibit, a visit to the Bon Marche department store and, at last, a decent evening to take advantage of the discount coupons we printed off for the Vendette Pont Neuf Seine cruise. We arrived there at 8:45 pm but the 9:30 boat was booked, so we took the 10 pm cruise. Great trip, good weather.





Tuesday, we included a picnic near Forum des Halles (I think). Picked up the baguettes from one shop, cheeses and fruit from another, wine from a third and we were good to go!





Wednesday was reserved for more shopping .... and walking, of course.





Thursday morning, back to CDG by shuttle and home to Toronto.





We had a great time. Walked miles %26amp; miles. Saw things and had experiences we never thought we would have in our lifetime.





For what it%26#39;s worth, we scoured this forum %26amp; associated links that trravellers were good enough to provide, we bought many books and relied on Rick Steeve%26#39;s Paris, the Unofficial Guide to Paris by David Applefield and Frommer%26#39;s Memorable Walks in Paris the most. Also, an absolutely FANTASTIC map of Paris is put out by Borch. It is large, waterproof, you can write on it with non-permanent markers and most importantly to us, it overlays the separate sections of Paris South, North and Central with all the Metro routes and stations for each Metro line. It was a godsend to us.





By the way, we used the various Metro lines alot. We found the number 4 line very hot--both stations and cars--and always crowded. On the other hand, if you get a chance, try the number 14 line. It%26#39;s the newest, fully automated (no drivers) air conditioned and it even has anti-suicide gates at the station.





As a million others have said here and elsewhere, don%26#39;t attempt to drive in Paris. among the trains, Metro, buses and your feet, you%26#39;ll get anywhere you need to go.





We also found all the French people we dealt with most friendly and helpful, whether in hotels, stores or restaurants. Our French is not terrific but we tried our best (my wife is better than I) and most people understood (or pretended to %26lt;g%26gt;) and spoke some degree of English as well.





I haven%26#39;t mentioned restaurants as there are 1000%26#39;s to choose from and I%26#39;m sure you%26#39;ll find whatever kind of food you%26#39;re looking for. Some we chose were better than others. No surprise there. I do want to mention one we really enjoyed and visited twice, the Cafe de deux Palais across the street from the Palais de Justice. Onion soup to die for!!





I%26#39;m sure I%26#39;ll remember much more of what we did as soon as I click on %26#39;submit%26#39; but I hope I%26#39;ve conveyed some of the experiences we had.


























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Thanks for sharing your trip with us!





You sound like you had a great time!!





Nice tips for new people too!




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13 days in Paris seems like a dream trip. You can see so much, yet still have time for some leisurely walking and shopping. I%26#39;ve never been there for more than 5 days at a time.



I%26#39;m curious to know .........Did you stay in 2 hotels because you wanted to experience 2 different places, or did you not have a choice?




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Great post, thanks for sharing!





I live in the GTA so especially enjoyed reading the tails from someone who is almost a neighbour. My mother and I will be visiting Paris for the first time in December, so if you have any other tidbits you can offer we would love to hear.





Thanks again, glad you had a great time.




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To Shoesy.......





It wasn%26#39;t our choice to switch hotels but the first one had no dates available after the first Saturday. It took a while of frustrating searches on the various links we used to find another hotel to fit our requirement dates (smoking, elevator, 3-star, A/C, 6th e) but we did (Aviatic St. germaine) and it turned out to be an excellent choice for us.




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Really glad to hear that, dhn.




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Musee de L'eventail/ Muesum of fans

Hi everyone,



Has anyone been to this museum, I think in Blvd de Strasbourg 10eme?



I can sort of find bits of info on the web, but not sure on the admission price or if one has to book tours etc.





Thanks for any help



Fay




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Hi Fay





I must admit I have never heard of this museum before but this site suggests the entrance fee is 6 Euros and only open Monday to Wednesday afternoons





http://www.annehoguet.fr/musee.htm





This is the main page with some history





http://www.annehoguet.fr/





you could also email to check current details on the email address on this site





…parisinfo.com/museums-monuments-paris/museu…




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Please help with some of my Paris questions

Our family of 4 (husband, myself, 21 year old daughter and 17 year old son) will arrive in Paris from the US around 10 am on Sunday, July 1. I am sure we will be tired, but we know from past experience that taking a nap is not what works for us. Hopefully we will get some sleep on the plane, but that might not happen. By the time we get to our hotel in the 5th it might be around noon. Does that sound right?





Since we might not be able to get into our room upon arrival we will leave our luggage there and go out for some lunch. I am sure my guys will be starved.





Any suggestions for a nice lunch in the area? Possibly a Cafe to sit outside (if sunny) and people watch with decent, but not $$$$ food? I have some places in mind for dinner depending on where we decide to go that first day.





Also, since this is the first of the month and free museum Sunday are there any places that you recommend to take advantage of this? I have read that the Louvre is TOO crowded on free museum Sunday and should be avoided. Are Notre Dame and Sainte Chapelle also too crowded or since it will be late afternoon would that be a good choice? What about Orsay? I would like to visit the Orsay.





We thought about doing the Hop On Hop Off Bus the first day to get acquainted with Paris. If you get on in the 5th which direction does it go and how long does it take?





We will be in Paris for 5 nights arriving Sun. and leaving Friday for Rome. Tuesday we have a Grayline tour to Normandy D Day beaches and will be out of Paris all day.





I am confused about whether a carte orange or a carnet is our best choice. Please help with that.





Sorry this is so long. Thanks in advance for any help or advice.




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I am not sure about a restaurant but I think a Carte Orange might not work for you since they are Monday to Sunday. You arrive on Sunday and will be out of town all day Tuesday so maybe a carnet will be better. As for museums, we usually buy a museum pass. We have never jhad the opportunity to be there onthe Sunday they are free. The Louvre is crowded. Orsay is too. Notre Dame is free all of the time so mayabe it won%26#39;t be as crowded with everyone else trying to get in free to the other museums. We have been to Sainte Chapelle before but did not go in November 2006. It is so beautiful. However, I have read here about long lines and I believe I read something about restoration work inside. You may want to check that out. Enjoy Paris with you children we brought ours in November 2006 for Thanksgiving week and it was a great trip.




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I%26#39;m not clear where you%26#39;re staying, but your estimate for arrival into the center of the city sounds about right. I do agree you should just get out and walk around, and lunch probably would be a good way to do some people watching and help get yourself onto local time.





I can%26#39;t recommend a specific place for lunch (again, not sure where you are!) but suggest you just walk around and look at posted menus (by law, the menus always are posted outside). Just one note of caution: don%26#39;t eat in places that have their menus in English! My suggestion is to get off the %26quot;main drag%26quot; wherever you are, because even two or three blocks in from the really tourist oriented areas you will find bistros/cafes catering to French people, which will be much better food and most likely more interesting as well. (I don%26#39;t know if it%26#39;s near you, but I like La Pallette on rue de Seine -- I%26#39;ve had lunch there several times, and I%26#39;ve heard good things about their dinners as well.)





I see your questions about museums have been answer. As ot the bus for the first day, that probably would be fun (and not stressful when you%26#39;re jetlagged), and would be an easy way to get oriented to the city and learn a bit about places you want to spend more time later in your visit.





Have a good time!




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Thanks. We are staying at Hotel Henri IV Rive Gauche.





I appreciate the help.




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Looking at the map you have two good choices after dropping your bags. You can walk to the Ile de la Cite to Notre Dame and then to the right to the Ile St Louis. There is a nice Brasserie there, the Brasserie D%26#39;Ile St Louis where you can have a drink and a snack outdoors. It%26#39;s very nice there. If all of the tables are full you can try just across the street. If all else fails try an icecream from the place on the corner.





Or walk away from the river on the Rue St-Jacques to the Blvd St Germain. If you make a right you will come to no end of outdoor cafes to try. I usually stop at the Relais Odeon at 132 Blvd St Germain for a Leffe brune.





hth



Pjk




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Thanks everyone for your helpful advice.





Our hotel called the Museum and found out this information:





We called Musee D%26#39;Orsay today concerning the brunch on Sunday, you no need reservation, you just buy a ticket at the entrance and of course you can visit the Museum and go the museum%26#39;s restaurant (open at 12.00 AM).







So, this won%26#39;t be an option for us. I know my family will be much too hungry to stand in line for lunch.





Thanks again!




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How nice of them to find out and let you know the answer to your question! I%26#39;ve stayed there and liked the hotel and staff, so I%26#39;m not surprised. Have fun on yoru trip!




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Given a hotel location in the upper-5eme, you shouldn%26#39;t have any difficulty finding a likely looking café in the neighborhood--upper-Latin Quarter Saint Germaine des Prés, Île Saint Louis--fto suit all of your criteria for a leisurely light-lunch (after an overnight flight, it%26#39;s usually best to eat lite). After checking in with your hotel and dropping your bags, running some %26#39;..housekeeping..%26#39; errands should take you around you immediate neighborhood---to the Saint Michel Metro station to purchase either your CO%26#39;s or CARNETS (CARNETs will probably be the better %26#39;..deal..%26#39; but bear in mind that this may be your only chance to get a %26#39;..photo-personalized..%26#39; CARTE ORANGE for its souvenir value. Other errands might be purchasing post cards, finding a local Tobac to purchase stamps for the post cards, locate the nearest ATMs to your hotel and using it to make certain there are no difficulties, etc.





Sunday is probably the best day of the week for the L%26#39;Open Tours bus...since traffic in central Paris tends to be lightest. For L%26#39;Open Tours routes and stops. Depending on which of the four %26#39;..circuits..%26#39; you want to take, you can pick-up a L%26#39;Open Tour bus at PETIT PONT (for the Saint Germain-Montparnasse or the Bastille-Bercy circuits) or at Place Saint Michel (for the Grand Tour circuit). Either of these stops will be no more than a short stroll from the Hôtel Henri IV Rive Gauche. Download the L%26#39;Open Tour brochure and route maps and stop locations at--



http://www.paris-opentour.com/index_eng.htm





As an alternative, there%26#39;s also the BATOBUS--



http://www.batobus.com/




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Thank you so much EVERYONE for your wonderful advice and encouragement.





Yes, the hotel staff has been wonderful so far and we are really looking forward to staying there.





Great information. We are very excited about our first visit to Paris.





KDKSAIL, thank you for the wonderfully detailed information about the transportation. I really appreciate your thoughtfulness in taking the time to help us with that.





Thanks again.




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The free museums you could go to near your 5e : The Cluny museum is hardly crowded and also the Pantheon. There are so many good restos on your walk to both of those two places. If you go to Rue Mofftard there are many good places to eat there... it is behind the Pantheon.





You could buy each day a 1-2 zone Moblis ( about 5 euros) or you can buy the 10 ticket metro/bus tickets. How much do you plan to use the metro/bus per day? I have used the metro /bus enough in 4 days to make buying the Carte Orange worth my money. It all depends on how much you plan to use the system. Sorry! I just reread that you will be gone to Normany for a day. So I don%26#39;t think you would get your money out of the Carte Orange.




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Thank you! I am not sure how much we intend to use the metro each day. This is our first trip to Paris and I do not really know how to plan for that aspect of the trip. We will be doing the %26quot;usual touristy things%26quot;.





I really appreciate the helpful advice everyone so generously offered to us. Your kindness is greatly appreciated.

Multi-City or Thalys both ways?

We%26#39;re planning on spending Christmas in Paris and New Year%26#39;s in Amsterdam. Our dilemma is how to plan our planes, trains and, well, more planes. What sounds easiest to us is to fly into Paris, take the train and fly out of Amsterdam. However, that option will preculde us from using our credit card miles very well. So the next best option would be to fly to Paris, take the train both ways and fly back out of Paris. However, due to how we use our discounts/miles, that option will only save us money if the train is less than $200 pp/ roudtrip.





So my question is really... Does anyone know if the ticket prices or schedules vary because of the holidays? I wrote to Rail Europe to ask if they could tell me when tickets will go on sale for Christmas time and I just got a general %26quot;tickets are usually available 2-4 months out%26quot; kind of thing. Since I have to book my flights now for the miles, I%26#39;m totally stumped as what would be better. Any help would be greatly appreciated.






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Forget Raileurope - buy them yourself online at www.sncf.com





The cheapest fare is a r/t ticket called %26quot;Smilys%26quot;, no refunds no exchanges



It usually costs 38E each way.



The full-fare ticket with fewest restrictions is a one-way only ticket, so you%26#39;d buy two - they cost about 98E so that%26#39;s more than you hope to spend.





Tickets are available inside of 90-day window. Smilys go fast so don%26#39;t wait too long into the 90-day period to buy.





Search the forum box for %26quot;Morganb%26quot; to find her detailed tutorial on how to use the rail site to book tickets online.





Question: did an airline agent tell you that only r/t tickets can be issued using F.F. miles? or is that all you can find online?




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p.s. I%26#39;d fly r/t out of Amsterdam rather than Paris, if you have the choice. The Schiphol airport is far more user-friendly than is CDG/Paris, and the transport time and cost is much less as well.





You can still use www.sncf.com to book tickets even if the starting point is Amsterdam



- use %26quot;Netherlands%26quot; as your country (might be shown as Pays Bas)



- choose to print on your own printer if the option is offered



- otherwise, you can choose to pick up at a rail ticket window (there%26#39;s one in Schiphol or you could get it at Centraal in Amsterdam)




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Thanks, we were actually contemplating flying in and out of AMS and hearing that definitely sways us that way. Unfortunately, it%26#39;s our credit card that%26#39;s dictating what flights we use. Flat rate for R/T and variable rate for multi-city, with a big difference. So are the Smileys even avaible for times like the day after Christmas. I%26#39;ll be totally on top of booking early. I just wasn%26#39;t sure if the day after Christmas is as big of a travel problem on trains there as they are with planes in the US--at least price-wise? Thanks. Summer




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I am puzzled at your difficulty booking an open jawed ticket -- we do this all the time -- with frequent flyer miles and with credit cards -- what is the problem with that?





and let me add, I was once on a Thalys due in around 1pm to Paris with a trainload of people who missed their flights out of CDG when we were 4.5 hours late -- rare -- but don%26#39;t make the return trip the day of your flight





and take another swing at the open jaw ticket -- don%26#39;t nickel dime your precious time in Amsterday or Paris




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I don%26#39;t know about ticket prices over holidays, as I%26#39;ve never booked any then...




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About the open-jaw miles... I have a credit card that does %26quot;thank you points.%26quot; If you just use them normally, flights are kinda outrageous, making them twice as many points as the flat rates they offer on some flights, which can only be R/T. Makes no sense to me either, but what else could you expect from a reward program designed by a credit card company?




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if you have really pushed on this and open jaw is not an option then I would agree that you should fly in and out of Amsterdam if you can





and take the Thalys into Paris avoiding CDG




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Thalys is the best way to go between Paris %26amp; Amsterdam. We did this last year and the time spent on the train was about the same as a flight. The hassles you must endure at the airports with screening and arriving early doens%26#39;t compare to boarding a train in the city centre. Both CDG and Schippol airports are about 35 to 40 minutes from the city centre, so the train is the best option.



The Thalys coachs are comfortable and clean, unlike some North American trains.




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Must find gite by the ocean for mid-July - impossible task?

I have been trying to find a gite not too far from the ocean for about a week - I am not having an easy time: either no reply or booked. Anybody care to share the secret to this enigma? I would like to find something around St-Lunaire or St Malo. I have left very many messages everywhere - my most recent ones are in French!






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Are you still looking for a gite - I have only just %26quot;tuned in%26quot; to the forum after a long absence.



Have you logged on to www.gites-de-france.com and searched via the Department you are interested in?



You don%26#39;t say when you need it but even if it will be in the peak month of August there are so many gites that I would be surprised if you fail to find one.



We have sometimes left it til the day of arrival when we have been moving from place to place, admittedly not in August..





As well as gites there is the %26quot;clevances%26quot; site which is part of an official scheme for the classification of furnished properties.





Gites (and others) usually now provide a more comfortable standard than we found 35 years ago but we usually go for a minimum of 3 ears of corn and, even then, north American friends and relatives who have joined us on holiday have not always found the accommodation quite up to their scratch.





If all else falis I just Google %26quot;Self catering house wherever%26quot; then you get a vast choice, often with the option to book directly with the owner.



Best regards and Good Luck.




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Try also cheznous.com - you deal directly with the owners.




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Oops! sorry you did say when. I read your title too quickly. Hope you ahve found something now.




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Try this link



holiday-rentals.co.uk/France/…p1758.htm



This property appears to be available for 1 week from the 14th July, it%26#39;s in St. Malo %26amp; sleeps 3




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