Wednesday, April 25, 2012

Accommodation in Paris

Hi All - I hope you can help. I plan on visiting Paris mid July for 4 days. Not having been to Paris before I really am unsure where the best area would be for me to be based out of. I had thought about the Tuileries or on one of the little islands but as I say not sure.... would be most grateful if you could help or recommend not only an area but also maybe a hotel? Pricewise I guess I am looking at the moderate level....





Thanks in advance for your help.






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Hello, post this on the Paris forum,





Book something central, nicest for first visit.



The last two digits on the zip or postal code indicate which arrondissont a hotel is in (ie%26quot; 75007) , 07 = seventh arr. .



The most popular for 1 st timers are 1st, 4th, 5th , 6 th and some like 7th.



Get a map ,, stay near river,, anywhere between ET and Notre Dame. I prefer left bank,, not too far south.





Go on this site, click on %26quot;paris hotels%26quot; on left hand side of page, read hotel reviews.,, as you scroll down you will find all different budgets.



There are many decent places under 150 euros a night.



Helps if you are honest with your budget, your moderate may be someone else cheap, or someone elses idea of splurging.



I have spent 60 euros a night, and I have spent 200 euros a night. Both places were nice, both clean, central etc.




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Re accommodation - moderate??? I have based this on the info suggested in the guides I have read which suggest that this is approx 80-130 euros per night...




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Driving to Nice

We are planning to drive to Nice on Fri 13 July from Burgundy and stay there for a couple of days. Is that a really stupid idea since everyone will be on holiday that weekend?




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it%26#39;s true the 14th of July is an holiday day in France, and it%26#39;s the summer.... so a lot of traffic and people





but the city will be the same, the sea the same...





so you can go because even if it%26#39;s a holiday day or not, you will find a lot of tourists and Nice is lovely




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Back from 13 days in Paris

Got back Thursday from 13 wonderful days in Paris (my wife%26#39;s and my first trip there)...





Arrived at CDG before noon on Friday June 8th and took a taxi to our first hotel (Hotel Louvre Rivoli in 1st e [review of hotel later] before 1 pm. Our room was ready; we dropped off our bags and started wondering along the Rue de Rivoli.





An hour into our wondering and saw 100%26#39;s of nude and semi-nude bicycle riders having a great time on the road. Police were directing traffic. Not sure what that was all about but I sure haven%26#39;t seen anything like that in Toronto!





Anyway, thanks to tips received from reading threads in this forum, we picked up our Carte Orange at a Metro station to start on the following Monday. As well, we worked our way to the Paris tourist office near the Rue Pyramides to buy our 4-day Museum passes.





Sunday and Monday were spent at the Louvre, Picasso Museum, the Jewish Memorial and we did the Marais walk (Frommer%26#39;s Memorable Walks) as well. On the same street that the 100%26#39;s of cyclists were travelling on Saturday were at least 1000 roller bladers on Sunday, blading for some benefit or other. Quite a sight.





Tuesday we took the RER C to Versailles. We took the Bd. du Palais bridge to the RER station at St. Michel. (TIP: if you need tickets for the RER, take the entrance on the east side of the bridge to find a booth that is manned; the west side entrance is only for those with train tickets already). Spent the day doing Versailles, including the palace, the grounds, and Marie Antoinette%26#39;s %26#39;little%26#39; abode away from the palace. It takes a good day to see everything there.





Wednesday, back in Paris for the D%26#39;Orsey Museum, Jardin des Tuileries, Obelisque, Conciergerie, St. Chapelle and the Palais de Justice. We definitely got our money%26#39;s worth from the Museum passes. Also, whenever available, we rented audio guides at the various museums.





Thursday, as I remember, included Notre Dame, Gallerie Lafayette %26amp; le Printemps for my wife to do damage to her credit card. That evening, we took in the 11pm show of the Moulin Rouge. We booked online here a month in advance and still could not get a 9 pm show for any of the nights we wanted. Others have made negative comments about the show but we thought it was fantastic. It started late (11:30 pm before all were seated) and ended at 1:30 am. As hundreds of us left after the show, we were met by a torrential downpour outside. Luckily, my wife and I ran across the street where I was fortunate to hail an available cab within minutes by running out into the traffic to get his attention. (The Metro stops at 12:30 am so we couldn%26#39;t use it).





Friday included a visit to Sacre Coeur and more miles of walking.





Saturday, we had to move hotels and went to the Aviatic St. Germaine in the 6th e. After checking in, we did the St. Sulpice Walk which included the oldest street and oldest tree (planted in 1602) in Paris.





I should add here that most of the 13 days in Paris were overcast much of each day and showers some of the day. A great tip is NEVER go anywhere without your umbrella, even if you wake up to a blue sky in the morning.





And indeed we did get a blue sky morning on Sunday when we visited the Eiffel tower. Arriving at 8:45 am, we got on the elevator by about 9:15 am. Not too bad. We%26#39;re in our 60%26#39;s and not much for walking all the way to the top so paid the extra to take the elevator all the way up. If you do one thing in Paris, go to the top of the tower. We also visited the Arc de Triomphe, did the touristy thing off having a coffee at Fouget%26#39;s on the Champs Elysees %26amp; the Latin Quarter walk.





Monday included the Luxenbourg Gardens, the Lalique exhibit, a visit to the Bon Marche department store and, at last, a decent evening to take advantage of the discount coupons we printed off for the Vendette Pont Neuf Seine cruise. We arrived there at 8:45 pm but the 9:30 boat was booked, so we took the 10 pm cruise. Great trip, good weather.





Tuesday, we included a picnic near Forum des Halles (I think). Picked up the baguettes from one shop, cheeses and fruit from another, wine from a third and we were good to go!





Wednesday was reserved for more shopping .... and walking, of course.





Thursday morning, back to CDG by shuttle and home to Toronto.





We had a great time. Walked miles %26amp; miles. Saw things and had experiences we never thought we would have in our lifetime.





For what it%26#39;s worth, we scoured this forum %26amp; associated links that trravellers were good enough to provide, we bought many books and relied on Rick Steeve%26#39;s Paris, the Unofficial Guide to Paris by David Applefield and Frommer%26#39;s Memorable Walks in Paris the most. Also, an absolutely FANTASTIC map of Paris is put out by Borch. It is large, waterproof, you can write on it with non-permanent markers and most importantly to us, it overlays the separate sections of Paris South, North and Central with all the Metro routes and stations for each Metro line. It was a godsend to us.





By the way, we used the various Metro lines alot. We found the number 4 line very hot--both stations and cars--and always crowded. On the other hand, if you get a chance, try the number 14 line. It%26#39;s the newest, fully automated (no drivers) air conditioned and it even has anti-suicide gates at the station.





As a million others have said here and elsewhere, don%26#39;t attempt to drive in Paris. among the trains, Metro, buses and your feet, you%26#39;ll get anywhere you need to go.





We also found all the French people we dealt with most friendly and helpful, whether in hotels, stores or restaurants. Our French is not terrific but we tried our best (my wife is better than I) and most people understood (or pretended to %26lt;g%26gt;) and spoke some degree of English as well.





I haven%26#39;t mentioned restaurants as there are 1000%26#39;s to choose from and I%26#39;m sure you%26#39;ll find whatever kind of food you%26#39;re looking for. Some we chose were better than others. No surprise there. I do want to mention one we really enjoyed and visited twice, the Cafe de deux Palais across the street from the Palais de Justice. Onion soup to die for!!





I%26#39;m sure I%26#39;ll remember much more of what we did as soon as I click on %26#39;submit%26#39; but I hope I%26#39;ve conveyed some of the experiences we had.


























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Thanks for sharing your trip with us!





You sound like you had a great time!!





Nice tips for new people too!




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13 days in Paris seems like a dream trip. You can see so much, yet still have time for some leisurely walking and shopping. I%26#39;ve never been there for more than 5 days at a time.



I%26#39;m curious to know .........Did you stay in 2 hotels because you wanted to experience 2 different places, or did you not have a choice?




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Great post, thanks for sharing!





I live in the GTA so especially enjoyed reading the tails from someone who is almost a neighbour. My mother and I will be visiting Paris for the first time in December, so if you have any other tidbits you can offer we would love to hear.





Thanks again, glad you had a great time.




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To Shoesy.......





It wasn%26#39;t our choice to switch hotels but the first one had no dates available after the first Saturday. It took a while of frustrating searches on the various links we used to find another hotel to fit our requirement dates (smoking, elevator, 3-star, A/C, 6th e) but we did (Aviatic St. germaine) and it turned out to be an excellent choice for us.




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Really glad to hear that, dhn.




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Musee de L'eventail/ Muesum of fans

Hi everyone,



Has anyone been to this museum, I think in Blvd de Strasbourg 10eme?



I can sort of find bits of info on the web, but not sure on the admission price or if one has to book tours etc.





Thanks for any help



Fay




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Hi Fay





I must admit I have never heard of this museum before but this site suggests the entrance fee is 6 Euros and only open Monday to Wednesday afternoons





http://www.annehoguet.fr/musee.htm





This is the main page with some history





http://www.annehoguet.fr/





you could also email to check current details on the email address on this site





…parisinfo.com/museums-monuments-paris/museu…




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Please help with some of my Paris questions

Our family of 4 (husband, myself, 21 year old daughter and 17 year old son) will arrive in Paris from the US around 10 am on Sunday, July 1. I am sure we will be tired, but we know from past experience that taking a nap is not what works for us. Hopefully we will get some sleep on the plane, but that might not happen. By the time we get to our hotel in the 5th it might be around noon. Does that sound right?





Since we might not be able to get into our room upon arrival we will leave our luggage there and go out for some lunch. I am sure my guys will be starved.





Any suggestions for a nice lunch in the area? Possibly a Cafe to sit outside (if sunny) and people watch with decent, but not $$$$ food? I have some places in mind for dinner depending on where we decide to go that first day.





Also, since this is the first of the month and free museum Sunday are there any places that you recommend to take advantage of this? I have read that the Louvre is TOO crowded on free museum Sunday and should be avoided. Are Notre Dame and Sainte Chapelle also too crowded or since it will be late afternoon would that be a good choice? What about Orsay? I would like to visit the Orsay.





We thought about doing the Hop On Hop Off Bus the first day to get acquainted with Paris. If you get on in the 5th which direction does it go and how long does it take?





We will be in Paris for 5 nights arriving Sun. and leaving Friday for Rome. Tuesday we have a Grayline tour to Normandy D Day beaches and will be out of Paris all day.





I am confused about whether a carte orange or a carnet is our best choice. Please help with that.





Sorry this is so long. Thanks in advance for any help or advice.




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I am not sure about a restaurant but I think a Carte Orange might not work for you since they are Monday to Sunday. You arrive on Sunday and will be out of town all day Tuesday so maybe a carnet will be better. As for museums, we usually buy a museum pass. We have never jhad the opportunity to be there onthe Sunday they are free. The Louvre is crowded. Orsay is too. Notre Dame is free all of the time so mayabe it won%26#39;t be as crowded with everyone else trying to get in free to the other museums. We have been to Sainte Chapelle before but did not go in November 2006. It is so beautiful. However, I have read here about long lines and I believe I read something about restoration work inside. You may want to check that out. Enjoy Paris with you children we brought ours in November 2006 for Thanksgiving week and it was a great trip.




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I%26#39;m not clear where you%26#39;re staying, but your estimate for arrival into the center of the city sounds about right. I do agree you should just get out and walk around, and lunch probably would be a good way to do some people watching and help get yourself onto local time.





I can%26#39;t recommend a specific place for lunch (again, not sure where you are!) but suggest you just walk around and look at posted menus (by law, the menus always are posted outside). Just one note of caution: don%26#39;t eat in places that have their menus in English! My suggestion is to get off the %26quot;main drag%26quot; wherever you are, because even two or three blocks in from the really tourist oriented areas you will find bistros/cafes catering to French people, which will be much better food and most likely more interesting as well. (I don%26#39;t know if it%26#39;s near you, but I like La Pallette on rue de Seine -- I%26#39;ve had lunch there several times, and I%26#39;ve heard good things about their dinners as well.)





I see your questions about museums have been answer. As ot the bus for the first day, that probably would be fun (and not stressful when you%26#39;re jetlagged), and would be an easy way to get oriented to the city and learn a bit about places you want to spend more time later in your visit.





Have a good time!




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Thanks. We are staying at Hotel Henri IV Rive Gauche.





I appreciate the help.




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Looking at the map you have two good choices after dropping your bags. You can walk to the Ile de la Cite to Notre Dame and then to the right to the Ile St Louis. There is a nice Brasserie there, the Brasserie D%26#39;Ile St Louis where you can have a drink and a snack outdoors. It%26#39;s very nice there. If all of the tables are full you can try just across the street. If all else fails try an icecream from the place on the corner.





Or walk away from the river on the Rue St-Jacques to the Blvd St Germain. If you make a right you will come to no end of outdoor cafes to try. I usually stop at the Relais Odeon at 132 Blvd St Germain for a Leffe brune.





hth



Pjk




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Thanks everyone for your helpful advice.





Our hotel called the Museum and found out this information:





We called Musee D%26#39;Orsay today concerning the brunch on Sunday, you no need reservation, you just buy a ticket at the entrance and of course you can visit the Museum and go the museum%26#39;s restaurant (open at 12.00 AM).







So, this won%26#39;t be an option for us. I know my family will be much too hungry to stand in line for lunch.





Thanks again!




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How nice of them to find out and let you know the answer to your question! I%26#39;ve stayed there and liked the hotel and staff, so I%26#39;m not surprised. Have fun on yoru trip!




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Given a hotel location in the upper-5eme, you shouldn%26#39;t have any difficulty finding a likely looking café in the neighborhood--upper-Latin Quarter Saint Germaine des Prés, Île Saint Louis--fto suit all of your criteria for a leisurely light-lunch (after an overnight flight, it%26#39;s usually best to eat lite). After checking in with your hotel and dropping your bags, running some %26#39;..housekeeping..%26#39; errands should take you around you immediate neighborhood---to the Saint Michel Metro station to purchase either your CO%26#39;s or CARNETS (CARNETs will probably be the better %26#39;..deal..%26#39; but bear in mind that this may be your only chance to get a %26#39;..photo-personalized..%26#39; CARTE ORANGE for its souvenir value. Other errands might be purchasing post cards, finding a local Tobac to purchase stamps for the post cards, locate the nearest ATMs to your hotel and using it to make certain there are no difficulties, etc.





Sunday is probably the best day of the week for the L%26#39;Open Tours bus...since traffic in central Paris tends to be lightest. For L%26#39;Open Tours routes and stops. Depending on which of the four %26#39;..circuits..%26#39; you want to take, you can pick-up a L%26#39;Open Tour bus at PETIT PONT (for the Saint Germain-Montparnasse or the Bastille-Bercy circuits) or at Place Saint Michel (for the Grand Tour circuit). Either of these stops will be no more than a short stroll from the Hôtel Henri IV Rive Gauche. Download the L%26#39;Open Tour brochure and route maps and stop locations at--



http://www.paris-opentour.com/index_eng.htm





As an alternative, there%26#39;s also the BATOBUS--



http://www.batobus.com/




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Thank you so much EVERYONE for your wonderful advice and encouragement.





Yes, the hotel staff has been wonderful so far and we are really looking forward to staying there.





Great information. We are very excited about our first visit to Paris.





KDKSAIL, thank you for the wonderfully detailed information about the transportation. I really appreciate your thoughtfulness in taking the time to help us with that.





Thanks again.




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The free museums you could go to near your 5e : The Cluny museum is hardly crowded and also the Pantheon. There are so many good restos on your walk to both of those two places. If you go to Rue Mofftard there are many good places to eat there... it is behind the Pantheon.





You could buy each day a 1-2 zone Moblis ( about 5 euros) or you can buy the 10 ticket metro/bus tickets. How much do you plan to use the metro/bus per day? I have used the metro /bus enough in 4 days to make buying the Carte Orange worth my money. It all depends on how much you plan to use the system. Sorry! I just reread that you will be gone to Normany for a day. So I don%26#39;t think you would get your money out of the Carte Orange.




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Thank you! I am not sure how much we intend to use the metro each day. This is our first trip to Paris and I do not really know how to plan for that aspect of the trip. We will be doing the %26quot;usual touristy things%26quot;.





I really appreciate the helpful advice everyone so generously offered to us. Your kindness is greatly appreciated.

Multi-City or Thalys both ways?

We%26#39;re planning on spending Christmas in Paris and New Year%26#39;s in Amsterdam. Our dilemma is how to plan our planes, trains and, well, more planes. What sounds easiest to us is to fly into Paris, take the train and fly out of Amsterdam. However, that option will preculde us from using our credit card miles very well. So the next best option would be to fly to Paris, take the train both ways and fly back out of Paris. However, due to how we use our discounts/miles, that option will only save us money if the train is less than $200 pp/ roudtrip.





So my question is really... Does anyone know if the ticket prices or schedules vary because of the holidays? I wrote to Rail Europe to ask if they could tell me when tickets will go on sale for Christmas time and I just got a general %26quot;tickets are usually available 2-4 months out%26quot; kind of thing. Since I have to book my flights now for the miles, I%26#39;m totally stumped as what would be better. Any help would be greatly appreciated.






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Forget Raileurope - buy them yourself online at www.sncf.com





The cheapest fare is a r/t ticket called %26quot;Smilys%26quot;, no refunds no exchanges



It usually costs 38E each way.



The full-fare ticket with fewest restrictions is a one-way only ticket, so you%26#39;d buy two - they cost about 98E so that%26#39;s more than you hope to spend.





Tickets are available inside of 90-day window. Smilys go fast so don%26#39;t wait too long into the 90-day period to buy.





Search the forum box for %26quot;Morganb%26quot; to find her detailed tutorial on how to use the rail site to book tickets online.





Question: did an airline agent tell you that only r/t tickets can be issued using F.F. miles? or is that all you can find online?




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p.s. I%26#39;d fly r/t out of Amsterdam rather than Paris, if you have the choice. The Schiphol airport is far more user-friendly than is CDG/Paris, and the transport time and cost is much less as well.





You can still use www.sncf.com to book tickets even if the starting point is Amsterdam



- use %26quot;Netherlands%26quot; as your country (might be shown as Pays Bas)



- choose to print on your own printer if the option is offered



- otherwise, you can choose to pick up at a rail ticket window (there%26#39;s one in Schiphol or you could get it at Centraal in Amsterdam)




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Thanks, we were actually contemplating flying in and out of AMS and hearing that definitely sways us that way. Unfortunately, it%26#39;s our credit card that%26#39;s dictating what flights we use. Flat rate for R/T and variable rate for multi-city, with a big difference. So are the Smileys even avaible for times like the day after Christmas. I%26#39;ll be totally on top of booking early. I just wasn%26#39;t sure if the day after Christmas is as big of a travel problem on trains there as they are with planes in the US--at least price-wise? Thanks. Summer




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I am puzzled at your difficulty booking an open jawed ticket -- we do this all the time -- with frequent flyer miles and with credit cards -- what is the problem with that?





and let me add, I was once on a Thalys due in around 1pm to Paris with a trainload of people who missed their flights out of CDG when we were 4.5 hours late -- rare -- but don%26#39;t make the return trip the day of your flight





and take another swing at the open jaw ticket -- don%26#39;t nickel dime your precious time in Amsterday or Paris




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I don%26#39;t know about ticket prices over holidays, as I%26#39;ve never booked any then...




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About the open-jaw miles... I have a credit card that does %26quot;thank you points.%26quot; If you just use them normally, flights are kinda outrageous, making them twice as many points as the flat rates they offer on some flights, which can only be R/T. Makes no sense to me either, but what else could you expect from a reward program designed by a credit card company?




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if you have really pushed on this and open jaw is not an option then I would agree that you should fly in and out of Amsterdam if you can





and take the Thalys into Paris avoiding CDG




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Thalys is the best way to go between Paris %26amp; Amsterdam. We did this last year and the time spent on the train was about the same as a flight. The hassles you must endure at the airports with screening and arriving early doens%26#39;t compare to boarding a train in the city centre. Both CDG and Schippol airports are about 35 to 40 minutes from the city centre, so the train is the best option.



The Thalys coachs are comfortable and clean, unlike some North American trains.




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Must find gite by the ocean for mid-July - impossible task?

I have been trying to find a gite not too far from the ocean for about a week - I am not having an easy time: either no reply or booked. Anybody care to share the secret to this enigma? I would like to find something around St-Lunaire or St Malo. I have left very many messages everywhere - my most recent ones are in French!






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Are you still looking for a gite - I have only just %26quot;tuned in%26quot; to the forum after a long absence.



Have you logged on to www.gites-de-france.com and searched via the Department you are interested in?



You don%26#39;t say when you need it but even if it will be in the peak month of August there are so many gites that I would be surprised if you fail to find one.



We have sometimes left it til the day of arrival when we have been moving from place to place, admittedly not in August..





As well as gites there is the %26quot;clevances%26quot; site which is part of an official scheme for the classification of furnished properties.





Gites (and others) usually now provide a more comfortable standard than we found 35 years ago but we usually go for a minimum of 3 ears of corn and, even then, north American friends and relatives who have joined us on holiday have not always found the accommodation quite up to their scratch.





If all else falis I just Google %26quot;Self catering house wherever%26quot; then you get a vast choice, often with the option to book directly with the owner.



Best regards and Good Luck.




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Try also cheznous.com - you deal directly with the owners.




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Oops! sorry you did say when. I read your title too quickly. Hope you ahve found something now.




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Try this link



holiday-rentals.co.uk/France/…p1758.htm



This property appears to be available for 1 week from the 14th July, it%26#39;s in St. Malo %26amp; sleeps 3




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Biarritz Self-Catering Accom.. help!

Hi





Planning a trip to Biarritz in early August and am looking for a centrally located 1 bed apartment with the usual self-catering amenities. Access to a pool would be a bonus!





All thoughts and suggestions greatly welcome.




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Victoria Surf fits all your criteria, I have stayed there 5 times, you can read my review on this site.





Unfortunately the first week in August is possibly the busiest of the entire year, so they may be fully booked. But you can give it a go. Biarritz is full to the rafters in August, so you have left this a bit late. Because of that they are also able to charge a whopping 655 euros!





www.victoriasurf.com





Otherwise I don%26#39;t know what to suggest. I know a woman who rents out her flat but it is fully booked throughout July and August.




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Try www.homelidays.com. Just back from week in Biarritz. Stayed in private apt. on Cote de Basque, found on this site.




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Antibes or Juan-les-Pins

Hello



I%26#39;ll b spending 4-5 days on the coast at the end of July and I reduced my selection to this two: Antibes and Juan-les-Pins. I understand they are very close, but I would like some recomandations. If anyone can help me to compare this two concerning the following:



1. Beaches, as sandy as possible



2. Costs, especially food and drinks



3. Nightlife



Any other suggestions or tips are most welcome



Thank you




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1) Both have sandy beaches





2) The costs are equivalent





3) The nightlife is better in Juan





4) But but (fouth criteria matter ?) the city of Antibes is very very more beautiful. Charming old town and a fabulous market !





provenceweb.fr/e/alpmarit/antibes/antibes.htm





I prefer to stay in a quieter place and go out to Juan one evening, so I would choose Antibes with no hesitation, but it depends on your lifestyle and what you want to do in day time.




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I too am struggling with where to stay in the french riviera, and have come to the same two places... JLP or Antibes (old town?)





I am in my early 30%26#39;s and traveling alone... I love the beach, but also plan to see different places (via bus?%26quot; or train??) during my 5-6 day visit.......





Im also curious about the public beaches in this area vs private. Is it easy to walk to a public beach - and is it nice and safe??





Thank you for any input you can provide, bc regardless of being young -- a long day is a long day in ANY country, especially when you want to see a lot, and or lounge on a beach and then have a nice meal or socialize in a bar........ I can save my crazy nights for my return home to the states!!!





Thanks for your help!!




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The train is very convenient to go everywhere close to the seaside : Nice, Monaco, Menton to the east or Cannes to the west are easy access. As the train stations are located in the city centers, you will easily be able to walk everywhere.





You will need to take the bus everytime you go off the seaside : don%26#39;t miss Saint Paul de Vence and the Maeght Museum if you like modern art.




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Restaurant With A View?

Can anyone recommend a restaurant with a nice view/outside terrace? I am leaving for a tour of the south of France very soon and am looking for somewhere romantic to have dinner.





Thanks....Dean




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The best restaurant in the area with nice views is Le Petit Nice Passedat, a 2 michelin starred restaurant with nice views over the Mediterranean and even better cuisine. Another less expensive option with a magnificent view of Marseille%26#39;s vieux port is les 3 forts at the Sofitel Vieux port.



Have a nice stay in Marseille!




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If you are on a budget and can%26#39;t quite run to a michelin starred restaurant I suggest a trip to Vallon des Auffes, a short bus ride (5 minutes) along the Corniche. There are several restaurants here, all with truly amazing views - especially at sunset. The cheapest restaurant, but our favourite, is Chez Jeannot, which serves amazing pizzas, but also more upmarket local cuisine - try the fruit de mer, which is full of fresh local seafood and recommended as a great aphrodisiac! The upstairs veranda overlooks this small, unspoilt fishing inlet and the restaurant is always full with locals - which I always take to be a good sign. Bon appetit!




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Which car rental company?

I don%26#39;t really know which forum to post this on, but since we%26#39;ll be renting our car from the French side of Geneva Airport, I chose this one.



I%26#39;ve been looking at all the different car rental companies and these 3 seem to be the cheapest, but are they reliable? Anyone had any experience with one of them?



novacarhire.com



autoeurope.com



alamo.com





We%26#39;ll be renting for more than 2 weeks, so I%26#39;d really like to have a reliable vehicle at (obviously) the most reasonable price.



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If you haven%26#39;t already - using the search feature will turn up lots of discussion on this subject with reports of both positive and negative experiences for the various companies. I%26#39;ve used autoeurope a couple times in the last year (out of Terminal 1 at CDG) and have been satisfied. If you%26#39;re going to have the vehicle for more than 17 days you might want to look into the purchase-buyback plans offered by the manufacturers - we%26#39;ve used Renault with good results. Good luck.




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Autoeurope is NOT a rental company itself , but it nogociates good rates with several rental companies (i used it myself and had a car at AVIS ) . It is serious and the rates are really interesting . And you can cancel the reservation before the date without fees .. enjoy your stay :)




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Just back from 15 day trip to France

I just had to report on our wonderful trip. I don%26#39;t think it could have gone better. I thank each and everyone of you who has written questions and responded to them. I%26#39;ve read them all as I have scoured this site for months in preparation and planning. I couldn%26#39;t have succeeded in our planning without your help.





ViaMichelin: we picked up our car from CDG and headed out immediately (yes despite jet lag) to Rouen. I had printed out from ViaMichelin.com directions from the airport to our first three stops--they were a total lifesaver. They got us through the mess that is Paris (especially to someone unfamiliar with the roads, names and signage and tired from the trip) without a hitch. My DH used the stop at Giverny for some much needed sleep while my son and I explored that beautiful garden. The water lilies were out early and it was gorgeous.





Normandy: We stopped at the Peace Museum at Caen because it was so highly recommended. It was good, but it felt more like propaganda than history. On the other hand the new visitors center at the US military cemetary in Colleville-sur-mer/Omaha Beach was so moving and had so much history and the experiences of the regular soldier was highlighted. We learned so much there. It doubles the amount of time you need to visit the cemetary, but it was so worth it. I loved the Omaha beach area, all the towns and WWII sites were very moving and beautiful. But I am glad we took the time to visit Utah beach as well. That was my favorite spot.





Mont St Michel: The highlight of the trip for my son. We stayed overnight on the mont, we were able to be there for vespers in the cathedral which was very moving, and got up early to watch the tide come in. Though the shops were closed, to walk the mount and explore the town with few people and be there for the sunset was absolutely worth the extra money it cost. We stayed at Les Terrasses Poulard and loved it completely. We didn%26#39;t even mind the 168 steps it took to get to our room (we were on the top floor and had another flight of stairs even after we got our door opened). But we packed light just as had been recommended by TA posters. We ate at La Confidance at the foot of our steps and were completely satisfied with dinner and the price. We payed for the audioguide for the abbaye but did not find it helpful, I would get some other way to learn what you are seeing.





Versailles: We stayed here at Le Cheval Rouge (a TA recommendation) because of our car. They had a secure parking and we visited Paris and Versailles from here. We visited the Chateau on Saturday. We started a little late as this was our first real down day and we slept in. Still we were in line by 10:15 and inside the chateau by 10:30 (with our parismuseumpass we didn%26#39;t need to stand in the line for tickets: there are two lines, one to buy tickets and one to get into the chateau,,,so we skipped one line and the other one moved fast). I had printed out Rick Steves guide to Versailles and felt it was all we needed. I loved the chateau, I loved the Hall of Mirrors all sparkling and clean from its renovation. It was filled with people and I just imagined we were all wearing gowns and at a Ball. I was completely enthralled by the fountain display---Les Grands Eaux Musicale. What an enchanting way to visit the gardens!!! Go on a Saturday or Sunday so you can walk through the bosquets with the music playing and fountains at almost every corner. It made me feel like royalty. (Cost is 7E with or without PMP). We rented a rowboat and took it out on the Grand Canal which was wonderful. My DH saw the Trianons and my son and I took a walk around Marie Antoinettes domaine. Between the fountains and the boat ride we just couldn%26#39;t get it all in even spending all day there.





Paris: I know you will feel I gave it short shrift, but we only spent a day in the city proper. (Our priorities were elsewhere). But thanks to all the great advice we filled our day with all that we wanted and it was a very successful day. I share it so others can know what is possible.





-we walked from the Eiffel Tower to Notre Dame and Ile St Louis seeing Napoleans tomb/Rodin/orsay/louvre/tuilleries/ along the way. We then took the Metro back to Place Concorde purchasing %26quot;un carnet svp%26quot;. Visited L%26#39;Orangerie. We took the bus #73 up Champs Elysee to the Arc de triomphe and the metro to Trocedero where we walked down to the Eiffel tower again to see the lights come on before heading back to Versailles on the RER C/Vick





-We were the first ones at the Eiffel Tower at 8:30 and were on the first elevator to the top. The line at 9 when it opened still wasn%26#39;t bad. A family in line with us who had a hotel nearby said that they had watched everyday for the least amount of line and first thing in the morning was the only time it was short. We went to the top first and then took the time on the way down to stop on the 2nd floor. We took our time, didn%26#39;t rush and were down by 10:30.





-Rue Cler: we walked over to the Rue Cler, ate a late breakfast at a boulangerie as we sat and people watched.





-Parismuseumpass. We bought a two day pass at Les Invalides. We made good use of this seeing 7 museums and Versailles Chateau (including the Trianons and Maries Domaine). I%26#39;m not sure it helped with any lines since none of the musuems had long lines (even D%26#39;Orsay and Louvre). But it was convienient and easy.





-D%26#39;Orsay: I was a little dissappointed. They apparently rotate the paintings and some that I had looked forward to seeing were not out. Still you can%26#39;t deny the greatness of the works and the ones we saw were amazing and beautiful.





-Louvre: This is big. You know that but you still aren%26#39;t prepared for how big it really is. We got here about 1pm and went through the carousel entrance. The only line was through security and it was maybe 5 min. The Venus de Milo and the Mona Lisa had been moved and were in different locations from the information I had from Rick Steves and the Louvre websites. There were signs directing you though and it was no problem to find them. The Mona Lisa and the Wedding Feast of Cana were in the same Salle so that made it easy. We loved the Grand gallery. The Crown Jewels in the Apollo gallery were also on display. We took the time to go over to the Richelieu wing and there were so many fewer people it was amazing.





-L%26#39;Orangerie: This was the best museum in my opinion. The two rooms dedicated to the masterpiece that is the waterlillies. They are finally displayed like a masterpiece should be -set apart and unique as opposed to being crammed into a room with so many others as to negate the true value and beauty.





-Berthillon icecream: yes we stood in line for our 2E scoop. Can%26#39;t say it was any better than Snelgroves (its a Utah thing).





-Arc de Triomphe: My husband took the two steps up to the ticket booth and had such trouble the lady there stopped him and told him to go to the elevator. It is a tiny thing but we got to the top fresh and relaxed which I cannot say for those who we saw huffing and puffing at the top. Our son in excellent condition nearly beat us and didn%26#39;t even sweat it. The top of the Arc de Triomphe is no place to be when there is lightning and rain. We should have waited it out a little longer, it didn%26#39;t last more than 1/2 hour.





-pickpockets: Thank you, thank you, thank you. I found that somewhere between Les Invaildes when I had paid for the PMP and the end of our visit to the Rodin museum I had been the victim of an attempted pickpocket. I had my purse in a larger bag. My purse had been opened and one of the zippers unzipped and the contents spilled out. I had done all I could to be aware, but it still happened. Because of the advice here I had my money and cards divided between two or three different spots and this most obvious zippered compartment was not one of the places I put them. They got nothing. I can%26#39;t tell you the chill that went up my spine when I discovered it and the frantic moments while I tried to find out if anything had been taken.





I know Paris is so much more, but we thoroughly enjoyed our day and never felt rushed. We didn%26#39;t attempt to become art critics in one day and didn%26#39;t spend time looking at things we had no interest in. We sat on the streets at cafes and ate, we rested in the Tuilleries, we people watched at the Trocedero while waiting for the lights to come on and laughed at the street sellers attempts to avoid the authorities. The day was a total success. Well except for the sore feet. I had worn my most comfortable shoes -white tennis shoes, but my feet still ached at the end of the day.





We also spent time in the Loire and in Lorraine. France is a most beautiful and blessed country. I loved the little french towns. We became quite familiar with boulangeries, ate at cute little restaurants that will never be reviewed here, enjoyed the green rural areas. We used that yellow Michelin map well and couldn%26#39;t have done without it. Still sometimes even it was inadequate and we would spend time wandering cities trying to get out. The signs are great however and the main sites are all well signposted, as are some hotels and tourist info and other helpful places.





I was glad I spoke some french. Even if it wasn%26#39;t much, it helped ease our interactions in the countryside. But toward the end my DH began feeling less nervous about talking and began to go out on errands for shopping and food without me and did just fine with no french at all---even his bonjour was limited.





I truly don%26#39;t know if I will ever be able to return, I tried hard to absorb and keep all the great memories, it was wonderful and amazing.





Thank you again for all the help and advice. Kbecjeans




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Hi. Could you please elaborate on why you thought the Mémorial de la Paix in Caen %26quot;felt more like propaganda than history%26quot;? Propaganda for what? against what?




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%26lt;Could you please elaborate on why you thought the Mémorial de la Paix in Caen %26quot;felt more like propaganda than history%26quot;? Propaganda for what? against what?%26gt;





Propaganda for Peace. Which is admirable and desirable and accomplished there. I felt it was an important site to visit.





I learned more about WWII and D-day at the new visitors center at Omaha beach and in it%26#39;s way of allowing us to see how the impact of that war affected individual and ordinary citizens the effect on me was more powerful. (It obviously is also subtle progaganda, any time someone interprets history you will have their version)




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Nice Weather in Early November

My boyfriend and I are planning to visit Nice for a couple of days before we start our Italian portion of the vacation; how is the weather in Nice during early November? As of now, we plan to be in Nice from Nov. 6-8.





Thanks!




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Hi Dewtrell,





The begining of November is still pretty mild, although it gets cool in the evening, so a sweater or sweat shirt would be recommended. As far as rain, that%26#39;s iffy. I have been there during this period, and spent two weeks of overcast and rainy conditions, and then there were the times of glorious sunshine. Just be prepared for all situations, especially warmer clothes. Just have a great time. Nice is heaven!




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Unfortunately, November is the one month of the year when Nice is pretty dead and many hotels and restaurants shut for their annual holiday. Weather could be almost anything. We have been there in late October for about the last ten years and have always had good weather but when I have visited in mid to late November it has been wet and cold. Hope you are lucky this year.




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hi there, well i thought i would add my euro`s worth.i have been to nice in november(last in 06) the weather for the week was great, but as previously said can be mixed.i have stayed also in antibes and frejus in november .they were really great and sunny and warm in november.



ok, so i am showing off a bit.but this year i have lost the plot and i am going back to nice in the 1st two weeks in august.......





must be mad.





dave.x




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cheap eats around latin quarter/rue des ecoles?

hi,





i%26#39;ll be going to paris for the first time this coming monday (very excited and have been reading up on paris as much as i can) and i%26#39;ll be staying at the minerve hotel (in rue des coles). as such, i%26#39;m wondering if anyone could recommend some good places for dinner that are preferably under 20 euros.





thanks heaps! :)




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It%26#39;s getting tougher to find dinner for less than 20E, unless you will enjoy a pizza or just go into corner brasserie and get a plate of moules/frites...



If you want a multi-course meal, it will be easier to find such between 22-30E all over the place.





For any other ideas, enter %26quot;cheap eats%26quot; into the forum search...




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Le Pre Grille in the 5 e is a three course meal ranges from 10-15 euros for dinner! For 10 euros they have a great huge pasta dish or a huge salad.




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Hi zerodoss -- the area where you are staying takes its name (street as well as quartier) from the substantial student population so wherever there are students there will be (relatively) cheap eats! I think if you just wander around the area looking at menus, you will be able to find at least informal meals in the price range you are hoping for. Fortunately for you, all restaurants post their menus outside (required by law) so you can see what%26#39;s offered and how much you will be paying before going in -- then you can decide on other factors, like which seem more appealing!





Have fun on your first trip!




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You will find a lot of cheap menus in the following streets : rue la montagne sainte geneviève, rue de l%26#39;école polytechnique. Mostly world food, including a tiny ethiopian restaurant that I strongly recommand !




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Paris Plage... Beachside.....

Has anyone ever been... do you know when they open???





Thank you.




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The open 7/19/2007 and close 8/20/2007.




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we were there for the Plage one summer and found it amusing -- but I can%26#39;t imagine actually using it as a visitor





but then lying on sand and baking was never my thing -- they do have a few sprinklers for people to walk under and cool off and a few loungers, but of course, since there are only a few, they are pretty much occupied continuously -- you can bring your own towel and probably find a spot of sand





and then of course thousands of onlookers will walk by above you and alongside you and stare





clever idea but not very appealing to actually use





there is also beach volleyball out in front of the Hotel DeVille




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I had read that there was a very large pool there as well. Since we will be there from 7-15 till 7-25 I thought it might be great to have a place to cool off in the hot weather!!!




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there was no water except sprinklers -- certainly no large pool -- when we were there -- but perhaps it has been added -- when we were there there was nothing about it which suggested %26#39;cooling off%26#39; ---- I don%26#39;t consider something an actual beach when there is no water -- it was just bake in the sun on sand --- maybe they have put a pool at Hotel DeVille -- it would certainly be roomy enough to do that





when we were at Hotel DeVille in May there was a huge garden exhibit -- on eco gardening




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Look, I live on an island, so the whole concept grossed me out. The river is wonderful to me as it is old and magical.. but not a single thing about it invites you close,, it is brown , ( or grey or whatever) , slow moving, opapaue , and not clean ( to my standards of wild life etc) . The idea of trucked in sand , dumped and spread around an area of pavement,, well it is just wrong to me. It is not a beach.



Paris is not about a beach, Paris should not have a beach, what Paris has is not a beach.. I am sorry ,, I avoided it completely, even though last time I was in Paris was a roasting hot August,, no water, no beach as far as I am concerned.



Paris has many lovely parks for suntanning in, much better choice. I step down from the soapbox now.




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I visited Paris in July %26#39;05 when Paris Plage just begun. I thought it was unique the premise of the whole thing. And mostly it gave Paris another perspective. Usually I visit in either fall or winter so to be in Paris during totally clear, blue, sunny skies and 80F+ with high humidity weather and then coming across people playing beach volleyball with imported sand at Hotel de Ville then seeing the beach chairs, sand, etc. by the Seine was both amazing and fun for me.





Have fun. The locals seemed to enjoy Paris Plage alot.




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There used to be a huge barge with a swimming pool / lockers etc.on it on the Seine River but it has been gone for a long time.





I know of no other pool around there.





If you want to go swimming you can go to Les Halles as they have a lap pool and exercise area but it is indoors.




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There%26#39;s the new floating pool %26quot;Piscine Joséphine Baker%26quot; (Quai François Mauriac, metro Quai de la Gare)





http://tinyurl.com/2tyk7f




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Paris Plage and Piscine Joséphine Baker alike will be crowded... mostly by people who have access to much nicer and bigger swimming pools in their backyard (ie the banlieue), funnily enough. But that%26#39;s the magic of Paris I guess. OK, it is fun to stroll for an hour or two, but unless you are a big fan of families and overcrowded places, I guess the charm will wear think quite rapidly...




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Time Out Magazine Paris

I get the New York version delivered to my house on a regular basis and swear by it. My question to locals is it as easy to pick up in Paris? In NYC we have them at every newstand and book store. Does it also come out on Wednesday as it does here?



Thank you for your input !!





Cheers,




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The TIME OUT PARIS magazine-- http://www.timeout.com/paris/ --is fairly easy to come by at most news kiosks around the city....as is the better PARISCOPE magazine (though in French....but easy enough to figure out). Not sure whether it%26#39;s Wednesday or Thursday that the new editions hit newsstands.




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I look at the website on a regular basis I just want to pick one up to have in hand when I get there since i might not have my cpu with me.



I will take a look at Parisope, thank you!!!





Cheers,




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Just so you%26#39;ll know what to look for, newsstands are usually free-standing or built-in kiosks that usually have piles of newspapers and magazines on shelves and large racks of magazines and books (printed paper constructions)...as well as other assorted merchandise.




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I thought that Time Out Paris free Magazine was not being published any more. I thought that the last one was published in 2005:





http://www.timeout.com/paris/freeguide/1.html





I looked last summer for it in the Parscope and Timeout English guide was not in it ... it was all in French.





You can still buy the Time Out Guide books and I do get the online London Time Out .





If some one else has updated information please post it as I would love to be able to get it again! Thank you!




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The Time Out section of the Pariscope no longer exists.





As far as I know they do a quarterly guide that is availablen the Anglo bars and restaurants in Paris.




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Thank you so much for posting that information!




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Yes, TO don%26#39;t publish a weekly city-magazine in Paris as they do in their native London, or NYC, Dubai, Istanbul, etc. They do publish a Paris %26quot;magazine%26quot;, which might be quarterly or bi-annual, and that%26#39;s a watered down version of their solid, bona fide, TO guide. To keep up with the competition of Lonely Planet or Rough Guides, TO now provide an abridged version of their Paris guide (%26quot;TO Short list%26quot;) for people who are not keen on off the track addresses or thorough historical background and who would just like to focus on the classic tourist trails and addresses.




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Apartment location help needed

I finally narrowed down apartment choices, and I%26#39;d like some feedback on the relative pros and cons of the following addresses in terms of location. We are a family of four (five on the weekend) with 3 older teens ranging from 15 - 20). We are interested in a lively area, but not too wild. We%26#39;ve never been in Paris, so we will be interested in seeing all of the usual sites. I greatly appreciate your help.





Avenue de Segur -- District 7



Avenue de la Tour Marbourg -- District 7



Rue de Bellechasse -- District 7



Rue St Jacques -- District 5



Rue de L%26#39;Odeon -- District 6



Rue des Deux Ponts -- District 4



45 Rue de Temple -- District 4 -- is this part of the street in a good area? It looks kind of sketchy from the street photos





A few of these apartments are represented by multiple agenciess. I%26#39;m pretty amazed at the price differences.










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agencies add huge fees for providing really no service beyond listings so often the same apartments will be cheaper through VRBO and can vary among agencies -- some are probably greedier than others





agencies provide no extra security as far as I can tell -- and as the occasional rip off of security deposit described here will attest -- we have had great luck with all our rentals but in the one case where I personally knew someone who had a deposit stolen, the agency did nothing (they didn%26#39;t even show up for the check out when the acquaintance suspected the landlord was going to scam them based on his odd behavior throughout the lease period)





I didn%26#39;t look these up on a map -- but with a family I would go with districts 4 or 5 and not 6 or 7 -- both the Marais and Latin Quarter are more lively interesting places IMHO -- the 7th is particular lousy




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Rue St Jacques (left bank, if not too far in from the Seine) and Rue des Deux Ponts (on Ile St Louis) would be good choices, also rue de Temple. The Marais (the Temple address) and Ile St Louis would be interesting and should fit your other requirements. I tend to agree about the 7th for your first visit, with a family. As to price differences, graceh9 is right about the fees, and you might also want to check the fine print for the ones that seem less expensive -- in case there are add-ons that are not in the basic price quoted!




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%26gt;%26gt;I didn%26#39;t look these up on a map -- but with a family I would go with districts 4 or 5 and not 6 or 7 -- both the Marais and Latin Quarter are more lively interesting places IMHO -- the 7th is particular lousy





Wow. I%26#39;m glad I asked. I was under the general impression that the 7th district was really a good choice. May I ask why it is so lousy?




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I don%26#39;t agree about the 6th necessarily, but the 7th can be pretty far from places you would want to be on your first trip. For instance, Tour Maubourg is quite a ways (at least, in terms of walking distance) from everything except the ET (and depending where on Tour Maubourg, that might not even be very close to the ET).





For your first trip, you probably want to be more in the center of things (which is why I would favor Ile St Louis, which is a stone%26#39;s throw from Notre Dame, which in the heart of the oldest part of Paris). Rue de l%26#39;Odeon might be fine (don%26#39;t know what part of it).





My suggestion is to check on a map exactly where each is, and then see what%26#39;s in the nearby area that you would enjoy and/or particularly want to see (also, how far it is to the nearest Metro stop, as you will find that%26#39;s the easiest way to get to places that aren%26#39;t an easy walk).




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I certainly didn%26#39;t think the 7th was %26quot;lousy%26quot;. We stayed there and really enjoyed the area. Yes it is quiet in the evening but that was actually quite nice after being out and about all day, it was within walking distance of not only the Eiffel Tower, but the Arc, St. Germaine, Les Invalides, Rue Cler, Seine River Cruises, lots of shops and cafes etc. etc.




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Guide books to Paris, what to book before

I have two questions.



First is which is the best guide book to Paris. I have seen a Lonely Planet book and an Old Michlien book.





The other question is well it%26#39;s actully an observation correct me if i am wrong.



From what i have read it seems that one doesn%26#39;t really need to book anything a head for Paris.



Some kind soul gave me an email address for the Forfait Loisirs Chateau De Versailles. I down printed out the info but i didn%26#39;t see any place where you could purchase your tickets a head of time.



I see it says that you go to the Transilien station in zone to 6 to purchase your tickets. Does anyone know do you must buy them the day you are planning on using them or can you purchase them the day before you are planning on attending Versaillies?





I also read that it is best not to by museam passes because you will not get your money out of the passes. Just to go to the individual museams and wait in line. But wouldn%26#39;t purchasing the pass a head of time help you to avoid long line ups?





Just trying to get a few things clear.



I guess everyone has their own way of doing things.





rickaman




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Hi





For what it is worth I found the Lonley Planet really useful - used it couple of years ago when I was there the first tome by myself and would have been lost without it.





I have never booked anything before I go except purcahsing a metro card prior to arriving so I was not struggling with the language when I goit there and was up and running as soon as my feet hit paris soil !







Have also never really had to line up as I get there pretty early in the morning before they open and wait 20 mins or so - am usually first or second in the queue - the one time I did wait in line was for the Lourve and it moved pretty quickly - took the time to people watch so didn%26#39;t really mind queuing




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I think that the usefulness of the museum pass depends on how many museums you%26#39;ll be interested in seeing. I don%26#39;t buy one for every trip, but some trips are scheduled for specific exhibits, and I tend to visit more museums on those.





It also depends on when you%26#39;re travelling. In the very high seasons, I think it%26#39;s very useful to be able to jump the queue. Holiday time is very special and expensive, and I%26#39;d rather save the time than the few euros the pass costs.




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We got back from 2 weeks in Paris last Thursday. We found Rick Steeves%26#39; Paris 2007, The Unofficial Guide to Paris by David Applefield and Frommer%26#39;s Memorable Walks in Paris were the best for us. We also used a Paris map put out by Bosch to be fantastic. Large, waterproof, all metro lines and stations on it and you can write on it with non-permanent markers.





We bought the 4-day Museum pass and found it useful. We did about 7 museums in the 4 days and saved money over paying individually, not to mention the line cutting in some places and in-and-out privileges.





Mind you, although we got to Versailles relatively early in the day (9:15 am), the Pass line was still reasonably long. The reason for it was the slowness of the security line.





hope this helps.




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Personnally I find the Time Out guide to be far ahead from the competition, it is absolutely accurate, clear, and covers all the different kinds of %26quot;Paris%26quot;es a tourist might want to discover. The Rough guide would come as a second best, especially their translation of the Guide du Routard. Rick Steves%26#39; guide is full of mistakes, lazy, self-complacent, and aimed at a very traditional middle-aged, middle-class, mid-American readership who %26quot;does%26quot; France the way one used to %26quot;do%26quot; it in the 70s. Definitely the best book if you want to spend most of your French vacation surroundered by Americans.




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Names of metro stops

Hi... I need help



I%26#39;m going to paris next week, and I would like to know the names of my metro/RER stops ahead of time.



(1) How to get from CDG airport to Argentine-metro



(2) how to get from Argentine to Paris-Nord station-ReR



(3)how to get from paris-nord to CDG airport.





This will save me a lot of time, and worry



Merci




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Hi shawana80





I%26#39;m sure there are experts who could answer this better, but since nobody has yet, I had a look at the metro map at www.ratp.info/orienter/f_plan_ang.php… and this is how it looks to me:



(1) Take RER-B in the direction of Robinson/Saint-Remy-les-Chevreuse to Chatelet-les Halles, change to Metro line 1 in the direction of La Defense to Argentine.



(2) The opposite way back again - Metro line 1 direction Chateau de Vincennes to Chatelet-lesHalles, change to RER-B in the direction of CDG - Gare du Nord is a station on that line (OR change to RER-D direction Orry-la-Ville/Coye - Gare du Nord is on that line too).



(3) RER-B direction CDG





As I said, there may be better ways to do it - this looks OK to me. Some of the changes will require long walks and a lot of looking out for signs pointing in the right direction, but as long as you keep your eyes open, you should be OK.





Penny




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Hi Penny





Nice to see a fellow Australian participating on TA Paris - there seem to be more and more of us these days!





Your suggestion looks about right to me too by RER B from CDG as Shawana requested. If Shawana was not intending to travel via RER she could also take the Air France Bus to Charles de Gaulle Etoile (Arc de Triomphe) and either taxi to her hotel or metro to Argentine in the direction you indicated.




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Hey thanks a lot for your replies..



Can i take the air france shuttle even if i%26#39;m not traveling on air france? if so how much is the ride?




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Hi Shawarna





Anyone can take the Air France shuttle (a lot of people assume like you did that you have to travel Air France BTW) and it is 13 Euros one way to Arc de Triomphe or 20 Euros return I believe, so a little more expensive than the RER and metro at about 8 Euros to 8.5 Euros each way (but simpler I think)




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It%26#39;s simple enough to use the %26#39;..ITINÉRAIRE..%26#39; fature of the main RATP web site to plot routes from station-to-station (Déprt-to-Arrivée) throughout the system...get detailed instruction and direction as well as detailed local street maps for the neighborhoods of arrival stations.





RATP--



http://www.ratp.fr/





And anyone may avail themselves of the Les Cars Air France Coach shutrtle system--



http://www.airfrance.com/double6/passage2.nsf/(LookupPublishedWeb)/en-EXCDG-CarsAF?OpenDocument#




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hi, regarding the air france shuttle bus - does the return ticket allow you to return on a different day, ie an open return?





thanks in advance




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Well, just examine the network map for the metro/RER in Paris.



The white circles/ovals mean the lines have a shared station and you can transfer there. The solid dots mean it%26#39;s a station but no connections to other lines.





Learn to use the %26#39;itinerary%26#39; feature in the transportation website at



www.ratp.fr





For CDG, you need to know which terminals are involved with your airline b/c there are two stops for CDG (one at terminal 2 and one a short ride away by %26#39;tram%26#39; at terminal 1).




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%26gt;%26gt;%26gt;hi, regarding the air france shuttle bus - does the return ticket allow you to return on a different day, ie an open return?%26lt;%26lt;%26lt;





It%26#39;s a simple %26#39;..open return..%26#39;...for any coach on that Les Cars Air France route..from either of the pick-up points for that route...any time...any day.





Les CARS AIR FRANCE Coach Info--



http://www.airfrance.com/double6/passage2.nsf/(LookupPublishedWeb)/en-EXCDG-CarsAF?OpenDocument#




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Good restaurant for a birthday celebration?

I%26#39;m headed to Paris next week for work - staying all the way out in La Defense. My husband is joining and it%26#39;s his birthday while we%26#39;re there, so I%26#39;d love some recommendations for restaurants that are a quick taxi or Metro ride from La Defense...Would love something great, small, local, and not ridiculously expensive (maybe around 30 euros per person or so?) Thanks in advance!




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I celebrated my 50th birthday in Paris. We have been home for one week and really miss paris.





We dined at Bergamote. Thier webside is www.bergamote.org.





It was very good food and quite reasonable for Paris. Very firendly staff . We liked it so much we went back again the day before we left Paris.





Enjoy !!!!




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Chateu des Ormeaux Amboise to Hotel Le Blason

Does anybody know how to get from one hotel to the other for a non-driver? Is a taxi the only option? Travelling on a budget but would like to spend one night in the Chateau!





Thanks in advance.






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A taxi is your only option. The bus does not go past the chateau.

vegetarian restaurants/ cafes in Carcassonne

any body know if there are any veggie cafes/restaurants/places that do veggie meals?



Also, for a day trip. which is easiest to get to by train



Perpignan or Toulouse?




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When are you travelling to Carcassonne ? My sister-in- law is vegetarian and has owned a property in Carcassonne for 4 years, she may know.





Not sure about the second part of your question although I think they are equi -distant from Carcassonne.




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Hello



Im a veggie and have been going to resturants for years in and a round carcassonne as we have a place out there and I have never been into a resturant yet where they havnt been able to feed me well, its usally quite basic vegetarian food pasta with tom sauce, pizzas, salads, veg stews, cheeses, omeletts ect but its always tasty . Try to learn a few french words about food to explain what you want and you wil find most people very helpful. The markets sell lovely fresh breads chesse salads olives ect that we find we pick up a bad full and some wine and go and sit by the canal or the lake near us as its so muc nicer than a busy resturant in the heat of the summer and so much more romantic .....................!



Hope you enjoy your holiday out there take a walk down the canal its a lovely way to spend a day .




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gare du nord to the ecole militaire area (rue du champs)

Any idea how to get by metro (train) from the GARE DU NORD to the Rue du Champs area ???




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Rue du Champs is an in-exact destination.....but if you mean %26#39;..rue du Champs du Mars..%26#39; in the 7eme--Invalides / Eclole Militaire / Tour Eiffel area (the Hôtel du Champ de Mars??) as the saying goes, %26quot;..Ya%26#39; can%26#39;t get there from here (by Metro) ; ya%26#39; gotta%26#39; go somewhere else to start...%26quot; That is to say there isn%26#39;t a direct route by Metro. You would need to take the #4 Metro from GARE du NORD (heading in the direction of Porte d%26#39; Orleans) to STRASBOURG-SAINT DENIS , then switch to the #8 Metro ligne (heading in the direction of Balard) to ECOLE MILITAIRE station. Rue du Champ de Mars is acouple of blocks north of the station , along Ave Bosquet.





Perhaps the best way (certainly the most scenic) is to simply take the #42 public bus route (heading in the direction of Hôpital EuropéenGeorges Pompidou), from it%26#39;s starting point at GARE du NORD to the bus stop at the corner of Ave da la Bourdonnais %26amp; Ave. Joseph Bouvard (just sout of the Eiffel Tower, along the Champ de Mars) and walk the 4-5 blocks. The #42 bus route will take you on a %26#39;..mini-tour..%26#39; of Paris...along the Blvd. Haussmann shopping area, around Place de la Opéra and the Garnier Opéra, around place de la Madeleine and Église Madeleine, through Place de la Concorde, up the lower Champs Élysés, across the Seine at Pont d%26#39; Alma, along the Left Bank quais to and around a tall, pointy, cast-iron construction (it has a name, I%26#39;m sure) that many visitors seem to find amusing for some reason, to the stop along Champ du Mars.





#42 BUS ROUTE--



www.ratp.info/orienter/f_plan.php…




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Thank you so much - so detailed and helpful.... Think that the bus will encounter alot of traffic on a Saturday around 10:00am ? How long would it take by bus ? By Metro (with the changes, etc.) ???





Also - since you%26#39;re so helpful.... What%26#39;s the best way for an adult and child (15) to get the best fares ? Read about a 10 ticket carnet. Will only be there for two days (but need 4 just getting to and from the train station). Your advice ?




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The Metro transfer would take approx. 25-30 mins from GARE du NORD to ECOLE MILITAIRE. The #42 bus transfer would take at least 35 mins from GARE du NORD to the stop at Ave. de la Bourdonnais %26amp; Ave. Joseph Bouvard.





In practical terms...the potential time difference between Metro and #42 bus isn%26#39;t all that much (but there%26#39;s no accounting for surface traffic)...and when you factor in the %26#39;..mini-tour..%26#39; you%26#39;ll get across Paris upon arrival...probably won%26#39;t even be noticed.





For your public transportation need for a two day visit, your best bet will probably be CARMETs (booklets of 10 reduced price tickets--11 €) as necessary will probably be your best bet. If you want simple %26#39;..hop-on / hop-off..%26#39; conveneince to ALL public transportation (RER, regular Metro, Bus, Tram, Funicular, NightBus) within the City of Paris, then you should consider purchasing one-calendar-day (valid from First Train in the AM until Last Train in the PM on day of useage) MOBILIS Zone 1-2 (5,50 €) transportation passes. It%26#39;s probably pretty much a toss-up--cost vs. convenience--either way.




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Gare du Nord to Latin Quarter

Bonjour,





We will be arriving from London at Gare du Nord. The apartment we are renting is on Rue Victor Cousin, it seems the nearest metro is Luxemburg in the Latin Quarter. Can anyone tell me the best way to get to our apartment from Gare du Nord? There will be five of us with luggage.



Thanks for any input




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Have you considered purchasing a Paris street map? They are usually pretty detailed. And many of them are now waterproof and can fold up to be pretty small. I did that in Rome last year and found our place with no problem.




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Your best bet is probably going to be to walk to the end of your EUROSTAR arrival platform at Gare du Nord turn RIGHT and wak=lk straigt ahead until you come to the regular TAXI rank there and take a mini-nav type taxi directly to your apartment. The regular taxi fare would ordinarily be approx 12 €...but you will have to add official surcharges to the metered fare of 2,70 € ea. for the 4th %26amp; 5th passengers, plus 1 € per bag after the (1st).





The public transportation alternative is to turn LEFT at the end of the Eurostar arrival platform and walk straight ahead until you come to the entrances for the RER %26amp; Metro portion of the Gare du Nord station compex on the lower levels and take the RER %26#39;B%26#39; ligne, three stations to LUXEMBOURG (ride the last cars of the train so that you are closest to the station exits at Blvd. Saint Michel / rue Gay Lussac--near Place Edmond Rostand--to avoid unnecessary back-tracking) From here your apartment will be a anywhere from 1 1/2-to-3 blocks away on foot.




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We just did this... but the other way around. We took a taxi from our apartment in the latin quarter to Gard du Nord. It was easy and pretty inexpensive... and worth every penny. Door to door and no stairs.




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Thanks for all the replies. Will print up information and take with me. We%26#39;ll decide when we get there whether to catch a taxi or hop on a metro. Merci




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While you%26#39;re at it, enter the address of your apartment into the PagesJaunes mapping site and print out a detailed local street map of the immediate area (including the LUXEMBOURG RER station location) and carry it with you. You can either show it to a taxi driver to indicate the exact address and location of your apartment....or use is as an aide memoire to find your way from RER station exits to your front door.





If you also use the %26#39;..PLAN de QUARTIER..%26#39; feature of the main RATP web site and enter LUXEMBOURG as your %26#39;.Station..%26#39; you can also generate a detailed local street map with the exact locations of the station Entrances / Exits. If you take some time to %26#39;..tinker..%26#39; with and poke around within these sites, you%26#39;ll also find other practical resourece within them that you may find useful.





PAGES JAUNES--



http://www.pagesjaunes.fr/pj.cgi?lang=en





RATP--



http://www.ratp.fr/




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Hi, we just got back from Paris and did the same thing on Eurostar. My suggestion would be take a taxi (probably 2 for 5 people, they are small) , there will be a taxi line outside the station, Taxis in Paris are failry cheap but a little hard to get, but they will be available at the station. When we arrived the line was quite long, so there were limos offerring transportation for 95 euro, what a ripoff, we took a taxi and it ended up more like 12 euro.





The metro is very good for getting around but takes a day to get use to and typically does not have lifts so you would be in a postion of hauling luggage up and down stairs. We took a taxi from eurostar and to cdg but use the metro the remainder of the time for sight seeing.




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